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Report - Welsh Gold Mines 5 - Foel Ispri and Prince of Wales (2022-2023)

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urbanchemist

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Foel Ispri is the next hill along from Clogau, and is a bit of a rabbit warren of holes.
Only the eastern end is covered here since the western end (Cambrian) was included in post #3 about the valley between Clogau and Foel Ispri.
The Prince of Wales mine at the foot of the hill is included although it was largely run as a separate operation.




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The picture above shows most of the levels (adits/tunnels) marked on maps, although there are many short trials which don’t appear - the two yellow dots are the remains of mills.

Like other gold mines the history of this area is complicated with divided mineral rights and numerous changes of ownership.
Mineralisation was generally poor with mainly lead and zinc extracted, together with variable amounts of gold from the quartz veins.

Starting at the bottom, the Prince of Wales mine is probably best known as the place from where chunks of quartz containing visible specks of gold were stolen in order to ‘salt’ other mines.
But the gold was too patchy to pay and main shaft, which extended well below sea level, was eventually allowed to flood in 1906.
There wasn’t much to see here - this is a short level leading to a shaft.




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Immediately below is a gated level where the shaft probably emerges - a mine plan shows the main adit heading off to the right from where the shaft comes down.



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Nearby is a short flooded level which seems to have been a trial - I looked for other entrances to the mine in the forestry further east but didn’t find any.



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Moving over to the lower mill, this was built around 1900 and kitted out with machinery powered by two ‘gas engines’ in the expectation of huge mineral finds.
However these never materialised so it only ran for a few months and ended its days making bricks, presumably fire bricks, from the quartz waste containing very low concentrations of gold.

I didn’t know what to expect here, but the remains turned out to be quite extensive - like a terraced Mayan ruin buried in the woods.
It was difficult to get decent photos because of the trees and sunshine, but this wall at the rear of a flat area is the height of a small house and about 40 yards long.




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Behind is a long space with a pair of squat towers above.



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Further up the hill is a lake (Tan-y-Graig) which once supplied water to Llanelltyd village below.
There are old water channels crossing the hillside in this forested region possibly connected with the mills.




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Below the mill is a very short tunnel with some ducting and an electric pump where someone has being trying to drain a sump.
No pictures of this since it’s so short, instead a longer one with rails further up which ends in a pile of rocks.




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Above here are three gated levels, two of which were locked.



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One was open so I went as far as I could before hitting a pool - the wooden poles across were too rotten to bear much weight.



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Up near the tree line are two more short levels, an orange gloopy one…



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…and another which leads to in a largish chamber, open to daylight at the top.



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urbanchemist

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The area above the tree line is much better known since the New Precipice Walk runs along the edge, and photos of some of the levels can be found online.
The walk follows the path of an old tramway which had aerial ropeways at either end to lower material down for processing.

This ramp just inside the woods could be the remains of the top station at the western end.




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I’m not sure where the mill at its lower terminus was located - it’s recorded as being ‘by the roadside half a mile west of Llanelltyd Bridge’.
It predated the big short-lived one and was steam-powered.

Nearby is a residential ruin with signs of a processing site involving water beside it.





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Uphill is a level which goes to an area with a flooded hole in floor and doesn’t extend much further.




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Near here are couple of short levels amongst other minor diggings, the first choked by orange gunk at the end.




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The second leads to an open worked-out section - it’s not worth shimmying round the edge since it doesn’t go much further beyond the drop.




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In the middle of the hill is an incline leading down from another level with remains of buildings outside - the ruin in the distance in the first picture is said to have been a smithy.
This one goes in some distance, eventually fizzling out beyond some planks.





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Further west is another short level.




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Somewhere near the start of the New Precipice Walk on the western side of the hill was the top of another aerial ropeway taking material down to a mill in the valley to the east - the mill with buddles shown in post #3.
You can drive up to this end (black dot) along one those narrow and slightly hair-raising Welsh mountain roads.
I didn’t notice anything that looked like the beginning of a ropeway so here’s a defunct waterwheel at Foel-Ispri-uchaf farm instead.






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Finally a couple of views up and down the Mawdach Estuary.




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Calamity Jane

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Interesting report. I have always wondered about the UKs gold mines. Whether they were successful at finding broken gold nuggets off reefs or whether it was hard rock mining with quartz seams.
Todays machinery would be able to extract a lot of gold from quartz if its there to be extracted. Nice photos and excellent views.
 

urbanchemist

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Interesting report. I have always wondered about the UKs gold mines. Whether they were successful at finding broken gold nuggets off reefs or whether it was hard rock mining with quartz seams.
Todays machinery would be able to extract a lot of gold from quartz if its there to be extracted. Nice photos and excellent views.
The quartz veins are the 'reefs' - weathering then produces gold particles in nearby streams and estuary sediments although you're not supposed to pan in Wales.
There is a gold prospecting/mining company still going in the Dolgellau area - don't know how active they are though.
 
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Calamity Jane

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The quartz veins are the 'reefs' - weathering then produces gold particles in nearby streams and estuary sediments although you're not supposed to pan in Wales.
There is a gold prospecting/mining company still going in the Dolgellau area - don't know how active they are though.
Ah yes, I made a mistake in explaining myself. I meant were they wet planting/panning/digging for gold broken off the quartz reef or crushing the reef to get particles out of the quartz. Like a dry blower? Always wondered what methods old timers used in the UK.
Oh really, I'm surprised a company is still running. I read all gold found should be returned to the crown, Is that true?
 

urbanchemist

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Ah yes, I made a mistake in explaining myself. I meant were they wet planting/panning/digging for gold broken off the quartz reef or crushing the reef to get particles out of the quartz. Like a dry blower? Always wondered what methods old timers used in the UK.
Oh really, I'm surprised a company is still running. I read all gold found should be returned to the crown, Is that true?
Digging out lumps of quartz, crushing them down to the consistency of sand then extracting the gold - there's a very brief mention of the extraction methods used in those days in post #3 (the mill with the buddles) - you'll find plenty more online.

As far as I know you are supposed to pay duty to the Crown Estate on any gold found which is why some it was never declared. However nobody bothers with a few specks from panning.
 
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