Report - Royal Navy Diving & Animal Testing Facility - Hampshire - November 2021

[mookster]

As stated in Post one the MoD & RN Suspended such tests in 2007 (14 years ago) and I doubt if they will restart in current climates.

What puzzles me is Primates (i.e. Chimpanzees) more closely resemble humans in physiology, so why use goats in the first place?

I guess there was less of a clamour from the anti-animal testing people originally if they used goats, which are less anthropomorphised. Plus they'd be a hell of a lot more expensive!

 

[pirate]

As stated in Post one the MoD & RN Suspended such tests in 2007 (14 years ago) and I doubt if they will restart in current climates.

What puzzles me is Primates (i.e. Chimpanzees) more closely resemble humans in physiology, so why use goats in the first place?

if you search around you’ll find they still blow up pigs to gain info on supersonic waves that radiate from blasts.
The U.K. still uses animals for medical military training.
Between 2010-2017 Porton Down tested on 48400 animals

 

[Bugsuperstar]

Someone should definitely make a movie about this kind of thing. Maybe animal rights activists could break into a lab were they’re messing around with monkey rage inhibitors or something like that… oh wait…

 

[mikecawood]

History of the Royal Navy Diving & Animal Testing Facility

The Ministry of Defence is considering abandoning deep-diving experiments which induce agonising decompression sickness in live goats after complaints from animal rights groups.

Live testing was suspended in March 2007 and a review committee of six experts is now examining alternatives such as computer-modelling techniques to duplicate the effects of "the bends" - the often lethal effect of nitrogen bubbles in the bloodstream.

The tests, previously carried out by defence research company QinetiQ at a facility in Gosport, involve subjecting goats to various pressures in a hyperbaric chamber.

The results are used to help improve escape drills and equipment for Royal Navy personnel in case a submarine is stranded on the seabed.

The effects of decompression sickness, brought on by rising too quickly to the surface from the intense pressure encountered at depth, include joint pain, visual disturbances, loss of balance, breathing difficulties, paralysis and death. The animals which survived initial tests at Gosport were often used in a series of painful experiments for up to five years before being culled and undergoing post-mortem examination of their spinal cords and brain tissue.

Goats were used because their respiratory physiology closely resembles that of humans.

Hyperbaric tests with goats have been conducted since 1905. Critics say that the data collected from thousands of experiments over more than a century should be more than sufficient to justify ending live testing and provide a base for computer simulations.

The French navy has already abandoned its own live-test programme in favour of more humane methods.

An MoD spokesman confirmed: "A number of studies reviewing the need for further use of goats in this research programme are currently being undertaken.

"These studies take into account the MoD's duty of care to sustain the health and welfare of submarine crews and to provide them with the ability to operate safely and effectively.

"The teams are investigating a range of options for submarine escape and rescue, and life support, including and excluding animal experimentation. Any plans for further experiments using goats are subject to the findings of this review."

A spokesman for the Animal Liberation Front said: "We call on QinetiQ to halt these experiments and hand all surviving animals over to suitable animal protection groups."

Exploring Royal Navy Diving & Animal Testing Facility

Really easy explore, spent about an hour and a half or so here. There are quite a few buildings to get around and unfortunately I wasn't able to post all the photo's I took, as it only allows 30! Most of the buildings didn't have much in other than the standard toilet, kitchen and one of the building had cages in it which was awful. There was also a cage washroom where they washed the goats and there was what looked like stained blood in the bottom of the sink.

We found the pool which was taken over by greenery and algae and was also filled with rubbish and parts of the ceiling where it had fallen in. The roof was caved in and you can stand on the ground, first and second floor and look right through the floors where it is all open although the second floor was a little sketchy but solid. There was also a room which was filled with rubbish bags. There were notice boards about the goats feeding times etc. and each caged area had a notice board outside with writing on numbering each goat and stating the colour collar they should have.

I believe there was also a bunker of some sort on the grounds which was pretty cool.

Went in, explored and got out fine, no security and couldn't see any cameras. Also managed to catch the sun setting whilst we were there which was an added bonus!

Please enjoy the photos

It must have been a pretty sickening place in the past.

 

[Roly Mo]

As a kid I spent the occasional Saturday morning here with my Dad. He used to work at the Experimental Diving Unit in HMS Vernon.
There wasn't any "wet" diving done here.
It wasn't just used for animal testing either, humans were also test subjects.
In the 70's a world record deep "dive" took place in a hyperbaric chamber.
The chambers can be seen outside the Diving Museum, in the car park by the Bayside Cafe in Stokes Bay.

 

[Moelwyn]

Goats were used because their lung size and capacity was similar to human ones. The facility was substantially re-built in mid-1990s when it was being run my DERA (Defence Research & Evaluation Agency), for forerunner of QinetiQ and also the operators of Pyestock about which there has been a lot on here. Need to be careful with stories about animal cruelty. Far from it as the goat house and facilities in which they lived was absolutely top notch. It was a bit of a joke that their accommodation was better than some of the nearby neighbourhood of Gosport. The sensitivity of the use of animals was well known and they were very well looked after indeed. Of course there was testing with regard to lungs and breathing, especially as it related to submariners and divers.

 

[mudcatiix]

Is this still here as thinking of travelling about a hour to see this one with a few others

 

[teddy815]

Woow do you think it is still there ? Wouldn't mind trying this one

 

[GarfieldUrbex]

History of the Royal Navy Diving & Animal Testing Facility

The Ministry of Defence is considering abandoning deep-diving experiments which induce agonising decompression sickness in live goats after complaints from animal rights groups.

Live testing was suspended in March 2007 and a review committee of six experts is now examining alternatives such as computer-modelling techniques to duplicate the effects of "the bends" - the often lethal effect of nitrogen bubbles in the bloodstream.

The tests, previously carried out by defence research company QinetiQ at a facility in Gosport, involve subjecting goats to various pressures in a hyperbaric chamber.

The results are used to help improve escape drills and equipment for Royal Navy personnel in case a submarine is stranded on the seabed.

The effects of decompression sickness, brought on by rising too quickly to the surface from the intense pressure encountered at depth, include joint pain, visual disturbances, loss of balance, breathing difficulties, paralysis and death. The animals which survived initial tests at Gosport were often used in a series of painful experiments for up to five years before being culled and undergoing post-mortem examination of their spinal cords and brain tissue.

Goats were used because their respiratory physiology closely resembles that of humans.

Hyperbaric tests with goats have been conducted since 1905. Critics say that the data collected from thousands of experiments over more than a century should be more than sufficient to justify ending live testing and provide a base for computer simulations.

The French navy has already abandoned its own live-test programme in favour of more humane methods.

An MoD spokesman confirmed: "A number of studies reviewing the need for further use of goats in this research programme are currently being undertaken.

"These studies take into account the MoD's duty of care to sustain the health and welfare of submarine crews and to provide them with the ability to operate safely and effectively.

"The teams are investigating a range of options for submarine escape and rescue, and life support, including and excluding animal experimentation. Any plans for further experiments using goats are subject to the findings of this review."

A spokesman for the Animal Liberation Front said: "We call on QinetiQ to halt these experiments and hand all surviving animals over to suitable animal protection groups."

Exploring Royal Navy Diving & Animal Testing Facility

Really easy explore, spent about an hour and a half or so here. There are quite a few buildings to get around and unfortunately I wasn't able to post all the photo's I took, as it only allows 30! Most of the buildings didn't have much in other than the standard toilet, kitchen and one of the building had cages in it which was awful. There was also a cage washroom where they washed the goats and there was what looked like stained blood in the bottom of the sink.

We found the pool which was taken over by greenery and algae and was also filled with rubbish and parts of the ceiling where it had fallen in. The roof was caved in and you can stand on the ground, first and second floor and look right through the floors where it is all open although the second floor was a little sketchy but solid. There was also a room which was filled with rubbish bags. There were notice boards about the goats feeding times etc. and each caged area had a notice board outside with writing on numbering each goat and stating the colour collar they should have.

I believe there was also a bunker of some sort on the grounds which was pretty cool.

Went in, explored and got out fine, no security and couldn't see any cameras. Also managed to catch the sun setting whilst we were there which was an added bonus!

Please enjoy the photos

For anybody wondering the building is still there from as far as i can tell given there hasn’t been any news articles on new building plans or being demolished and the newest photo i can find on google maps is only a year old. Hope this helped anyone and plz correct me if i got anything wrong. 👍

 

[Urbex_K]

i tried to go recently but there was a van inside the place